You gotta quit Fuckin' with Arizonans

You gotta quit Fuckin' with Arizonans

Chandler man shoots, kills 2 suspected gang members
On September 6, 2010, in Guns and Weapons, Security, by Country Survival .I am a firearms instructor for concealed carry permits and NRA courses. Although Arizona has a “constitutional carry” law that allows people to carry concealed firearms without a permit, many people still take my training course just to know the laws regarding firearms: what you can not do, and what you are allowed to do. Here is an incident where taking training has really paid off:

http://www.azcentral.com/community/chandler/articles/2010/09/05/20100905...

The intruder who punched out a Chandler man while stealing beer at a keg party picked the wrong victim.

The man, who had been attempting to defend his wife during the beer theft, had a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Fearing for his life and under attack, he pulled out a gun and fatally shot two men believed by police to be gang members early Sunday morning.

“People in Arizona carry guns,” said Detective David Ramer, a Chandler police spokesman. “You better be careful about who you are picking on.”

Ramer said police have concluded the shooter, who fears reprisals and whose name is not being released, acted in self-defense and have cleared him of any potential wrongdoing in the shooting deaths.

The names of the two men who were shot to death also have not been released by police.

The shootings occurred early Sunday morning in the 600 block of North Sunland Drive. A group of men showed up as uninvited guests at the keg party, paid a $2 admission fee, then became angry when the organizers started to shut the bash down, Ramer said.

“They thought they weren’t getting their money’s worth,” he said.

The intruders were stealing the beer when they were confronted by a woman who had been attending the party, Ramer said. After the men started yelling at the woman, her husband attempted to come to her defense and was punched to the ground.

“This guy was punched, he was attacked,” Ramer said.

When one of the intruders threatened the man with a gun, he pulled out his own gun and shot the two assailants to death, Ramer said. Police said they have documents confirming that the men are gang members.

Ramer said the husband showed restraint during the incident and only fired when he was threatened with a gun.

The man involved in the shooting had passed a concealed weapons course, Ramer said. Although he had a permit, the Arizona Legislature passed a bill earlier this year to allow residents to carry concealed weapons without one.

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4 years 6 weeks ago, 4:36 PM

luckybychoice

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sounds like he brought

enough gun to the party as well,good for him.

i tried being reasonable,i didn't like it, NRA LIFE MEMBER,USMC VETERAN
4 years 6 weeks ago, 4:56 PM

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The way it should be

I like that statue of being able to carry without a permit....GO ARIZONA!!!!If the whole nation had this foresight,the jails and prisons would be at half capacity and the overall crime rate would fall off tremedously.

The hardest part about living is not dying,it's having something that lives in you,die.
4 years 6 weeks ago, 6:58 PM

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Justice

I applaude the investigating officers for a job well done.

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