Sig Sauer P250 compact 40 sw

From Exeter, NH straight up the devils ass!!! Or as sig says "To Hell and Back reliability". I like my slogan better.

Performance

The sig p250 has taken a lot of flak from what i have read online. From what I am lead to believe from online research is that when they first hit the market there may have been some issues with the weapon. I cannot speak to that as I have not found any real life problem guns.

What I can say is my sig p250 is currently set up for 40sw. It works very well. I shot about 200 rounds through it. Rapid fire, double taps and single shots. I used 180 grain rounds, Federal FMJ and Remington JHP. I had no failure to feed or fire. The only failure to eject I could get was if I loaded a round in the chamber then removed the mag and fired the pistol. I am pretty sure it is not intended to be fired in that manor any way. A simple rack of the slide solved the issue. About two or three pieces of brass dropped on my head. Other than that they went flying and did not jam.

This is the first pistol I have fired in about 10 years. I have been shooting long guns for a very long time. I can say this firearm has a good degree or accuracy. I am sure a more avid pistol shooter would do much better than I did, we all have to start somewhere. Point is the accuracy issue was with me not the pistol.

On that note it has a Double action only trigger!!!!!!! Expect that since it is written in every description I have seen on any web page selling this pistol. I have heard many people criticize this in their you tube reviews. It is not a glock, not a 1911 clone and not even a Beretta. Do not expect a very short trigger pull. For this weapon it makes sense. I think of it as part of the safety of the gun. Also controlling the trigger pull and keeping sight alignment are traits of a good shooter. The long pull may help a person learn to do that well. The pull is smooth, no building of pressure and breaks like ice with a consistent 6 lb pull.

Features

The slide takes a good bit of strength to pull back. Advanced pistol shooters be aware that one handed slide racking using friction on your clothing would be difficult. Unless you are wearing sand paper or you flag yourself by burying the front of the slide with the barrel into your leg to help push the slide.

Simplicity makes for reliable operation in my book and unless you know nothing about a pistol you will not be fumbling around with this gun. The slide lock is on both sides of the pistol and the mag release can be easily switched from left to right with no experience required. Every ones hands are different but they are in the “proper” or traditional places. Sig kept it simple with this model and that is one reason I like it.

The p250 has an inner safety lock that stops it from firing unless the trigger is pulled. Then you have about an inch of a trigger pull, that’s it. There is no manual safety. In my mind it makes a bit of sense. I am not saying a manual safety is a bad thing at all. However they are mechanical mechanisms by definition they can fail. Some people seem to think they will never fail and I believe that overconfidence can make for a more dangerous situation. The only true safety any tool has from a pistol to a hammer is the person using it.

You can customize this gun to yourself easily and cheaply. Three sizes of hand grips are available and cheap at about 45 bucks a pop. If you live in a state that makes you register your handguns and or places limits on how many you can have. Consider that the only part you have a serial number/registration on is the fire control module.

Now for 285 bucks you can buy a caliber exchange kit. All you do is field strip your, let’s say, full sized 9 mill, like you normally would to clean it. Being a sig it is very easy to do with no special skills or knowledge needed. Take the module and place it in the new hand grip and put on the new slide assembly you purchased in your caliber exchange kit. You can have a 40 sw sub compact pistol. With the same serial number because it is the same fire control module!
In fact you can mix and match from full to mid to sub compact sizes and the different small medium and large hand grip thicknesses for your hand all with one legal registered fire control module. You also use the same module in the 9 mill, 40 sw, 45 acp or 357 sig chamberings. So pop it in the full sized 9 mill for some time at the range and cheap rounds then put it in the 40 sub-compact to carry, if you have a LTCF.

Whatever combo you want and it is much less expensive than buying another gun. If for some reason you wanted you could have four different calibers in each of the 3 sizes of pistol with whatever size grip your hand likes and you still only legally need to register that single fire control module. Not that I see many people going that far.

Appeal

The appeal… I will do pros and cons.

Pros are; reliable, register one gun for multiple uses, quality name brand, super easy to clean and maintain, after hearing many reviews everyone likes the feel of the hand grips, and accessory rail built in.

Cons are; kind of wide at 1.1 inches (sub compact) for a conceal and carry gun but doable, no manual safety.

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From Exeter, NH straight up the devils ass!!! Or as sig says "To Hell and Back reliability". I like my slogan better.

Performance Rating: 
9
Performance: 

The sig p250 has taken a lot of flak from what i have read online. From what I am lead to believe from online research is that when they first hit the market there may have been some issues with the weapon. I cannot speak to that as I have not found any real life problem guns.

What I can say is my sig p250 is currently set up for 40sw. It works very well. I shot about 200 rounds through it. Rapid fire, double taps and single shots. I used 180 grain rounds, Federal FMJ and Remington JHP. I had no failure to feed or fire. The only failure to eject I could get was if I loaded a round in the chamber then removed the mag and fired the pistol. I am pretty sure it is not intended to be fired in that manor any way. A simple rack of the slide solved the issue. About two or three pieces of brass dropped on my head. Other than that they went flying and did not jam.

This is the first pistol I have fired in about 10 years. I have been shooting long guns for a very long time. I can say this firearm has a good degree or accuracy. I am sure a more avid pistol shooter would do much better than I did, we all have to start somewhere. Point is the accuracy issue was with me not the pistol.

On that note it has a Double action only trigger!!!!!!! Expect that since it is written in every description I have seen on any web page selling this pistol. I have heard many people criticize this in their you tube reviews. It is not a glock, not a 1911 clone and not even a Beretta. Do not expect a very short trigger pull. For this weapon it makes sense. I think of it as part of the safety of the gun. Also controlling the trigger pull and keeping sight alignment are traits of a good shooter. The long pull may help a person learn to do that well. The pull is smooth, no building of pressure and breaks like ice with a consistent 6 lb pull.

Features Rating: 
7
Features: 

The slide takes a good bit of strength to pull back. Advanced pistol shooters be aware that one handed slide racking using friction on your clothing would be difficult. Unless you are wearing sand paper or you flag yourself by burying the front of the slide with the barrel into your leg to help push the slide.

Simplicity makes for reliable operation in my book and unless you know nothing about a pistol you will not be fumbling around with this gun. The slide lock is on both sides of the pistol and the mag release can be easily switched from left to right with no experience required. Every ones hands are different but they are in the “proper” or traditional places. Sig kept it simple with this model and that is one reason I like it.

The p250 has an inner safety lock that stops it from firing unless the trigger is pulled. Then you have about an inch of a trigger pull, that’s it. There is no manual safety. In my mind it makes a bit of sense. I am not saying a manual safety is a bad thing at all. However they are mechanical mechanisms by definition they can fail. Some people seem to think they will never fail and I believe that overconfidence can make for a more dangerous situation. The only true safety any tool has from a pistol to a hammer is the person using it.

You can customize this gun to yourself easily and cheaply. Three sizes of hand grips are available and cheap at about 45 bucks a pop. If you live in a state that makes you register your handguns and or places limits on how many you can have. Consider that the only part you have a serial number/registration on is the fire control module.

Now for 285 bucks you can buy a caliber exchange kit. All you do is field strip your, let’s say, full sized 9 mill, like you normally would to clean it. Being a sig it is very easy to do with no special skills or knowledge needed. Take the module and place it in the new hand grip and put on the new slide assembly you purchased in your caliber exchange kit. You can have a 40 sw sub compact pistol. With the same serial number because it is the same fire control module!
In fact you can mix and match from full to mid to sub compact sizes and the different small medium and large hand grip thicknesses for your hand all with one legal registered fire control module. You also use the same module in the 9 mill, 40 sw, 45 acp or 357 sig chamberings. So pop it in the full sized 9 mill for some time at the range and cheap rounds then put it in the 40 sub-compact to carry, if you have a LTCF.

Whatever combo you want and it is much less expensive than buying another gun. If for some reason you wanted you could have four different calibers in each of the 3 sizes of pistol with whatever size grip your hand likes and you still only legally need to register that single fire control module. Not that I see many people going that far.

Appeal Rating: 
7
Appeal: 

The appeal… I will do pros and cons.

Pros are; reliable, register one gun for multiple uses, quality name brand, super easy to clean and maintain, after hearing many reviews everyone likes the feel of the hand grips, and accessory rail built in.

Cons are; kind of wide at 1.1 inches (sub compact) for a conceal and carry gun but doable, no manual safety.

Overall Rating: 
8.00

A nice addition to the Sig family. I do carry one for personal defense. I can logically justify not having a manual safety but it still bugs me .Following the basics of firearm safety and not pointing at anything you do not want to shoot. Also having a good holster to protect the trigger becomes more important.

Great idea with the modularity of the gun. But I think as much as I love Sig Sauer they got a little cheap and lazy. Would it have been more difficult to engineer a fire control module that let the gun have a standard single action type trigger option? Yes. Would it have been more difficult to add in a single push button or lever action safety option to the module? Yes. Should they have worked all the bugs out before they sent demo models to be tested by government agency’s? Yes.

If they had done those three things would it be rivaling the glock and possibly now be becoming the most popular hand gun of police departments and citizens. Probably yep, they would have had a shot at least. As it is now it is a good gun however it has 2 main short comings an unpopular trigger and no manual safety. Dear Sig, great concept of modularity but those last two points are pretty big to have dropped the ball on.

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3 years 35 weeks ago, 1:03 PM

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LOL. Reaper, backroom needs to be swept also.

3 years 35 weeks ago, 8:10 PM

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Hell Sam, the P250

isn't that bad.. hehe

The second gen seems to be loads better than the first thats for sure....

still poly though

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 35 weeks ago, 9:27 AM

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I was speaking of the Asian shoe seller. Not the guns...lol - sorry

3 years 35 weeks ago, 1:40 PM

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Bye

Bye Nang.

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3 years 35 weeks ago, 9:29 AM

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Owns a liquor store in Central Calif. I am sure he can handle his own security. Stickup men beware...

3 years 35 weeks ago, 7:16 AM

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Nguyen Ngoc Loan

Runs a liquor store now? Is it b/c this picture and the way the hippies acted about it ruined his life, or was that what he really wanted to do?
I am constantly amazed at how many people think of Nguyen Van Lem as a hero and a victim. And Gen. Loan as some war criminal.

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3 years 35 weeks ago, 6:39 PM

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The Sig then the pic

The Sig, you said it all and it doesen't matter to anybody, I have expressed different guns on this site with longer trigger pulls for older ladies and home defence. It would be an asset to them as to get a good look at what they are going to shoot. It was twisted so many times that it was a too long a pull and a piece of junk and they tried that before and wa,wa,wa,wa. when all the word was for older ladies with no experience to have a longer look before the gun went off. No matter what I said and how many times, it did not matter the reasoning, or the facts of post. The men were babies on this site acting like they had to buy what I had reccommended for old women. Oh the trigger pull? what are you guys a bunch of girls anyway, why don't you guys get a artificial finger to pull the trigger the same way every time and in a 1000th of a second and do not forget straight back only so you can hit the big targets exactly the same way each time. Like the so called experts do on the show with the best shooters in the country. I watch the show and guys go right on threw to near end and not hit a single target even with a 22 rifle or pistol. It is a joke. Anybody that has shot a double action gun always pulls halfway and aims and then goes, and if you are good and familiar with your gun or anybodys gun that is you can pull and shoot where you want. I took my ccr class with 9 miami cops retired, all had 38cal six double action service weapons. They were put loaded on front of counter and 25' targets and given three seconds to pick up one and useing trigger only in one motion fire within a single move. While picking gun up, no finger on trigger or fail, one move and fire at target. Never shot a 38 before except a snub nose 5 shot of my brothers for an second twenty years ago. I walked up and put ear and eye protection on , then looked to them, (instructers) they nodded and I picked up gun and aimed with one hand only as per instructions and fired. Opened the gun layed it down looked over they knoded, and walked to waiting center. They brought out a target with my certifycation and away I went. The target was a bulls eye, they wanted no thought, no preplaned, action, just what you were going to do with your permit if your life or someone else was on the line. What I am saying is all you get is a bunch of different opinions of what is best and what they want to shoot. I do not deny anybody what they want or what kind of gun or how the shoot or what trigger or anything, it is up to them. Up in Jersey, Kimber is King right now for the Majority of police and Ruger backups, But there are still a lot of glocks and what is issued. Swat is different too. State troopers are different too. You Guys will hate me for this post but what the hell, I could erase it, but I do not want to. everybody has an opinion. The picture is real Life, and was sent around the world at the time. It should be a reminder that there are still guys not fortunate enough to shoot for fun and targets and hunt. They have to kill or be killed, and the trigger pull doesen't matter then ? JC

3 years 35 weeks ago, 8:22 PM

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what makes anyone think that just because someone doesn't care for a DOA they can not shoot a DOA?

We need to get on the range together and you need to try out one of my pistols. I think you will see what draws me to an extreamly light short reset trigger...

Placing your shots is a breeze and doing it double fast goes hand in hand with it...

There is a reason Sniper Rifles do not have 8 pound triggers.

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!

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