You know, I don't beleive it's possible to take a video of a bigger piece of shit handgun. It's truly the bottom of the barrel.
do you own one ?? have you ever fired one??
i disagree with you. my fires great. plus made in USA with life time warrenty.
CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! DID I SAY IT IS CRAP! YEP IT'S CRAP!
I may use it for a target for my BADDASS TRP SPRINGFIELD ARMORY 45! OR LAUNCH IT OUT OF A SKEET TRAP SHOOT IT WITH MY SHOTGUN! PULL!
CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP! PISTOL!
Nice job editing on the vid! Though!
i own the whole line from 380 to 9 carbine and i love this line they r fun and cheap after first 500 the fire like a dream top gun for little price a firearm that everyone should own
i have a hi-point .380 calibre, with well over 500 rounds through it....no jams, misfires, or problems whatsoever.....the fit and finish leave something to be desired, but the functionality is flawless....great buy for the money
Can I shoot you with one???
Whoever said that Hi-Point C9 is bottom of the barrel, YOU are DEAD wrong!
Lorcin/Cobra is the absolute worse. I was given a Lorcin .380, and at first it was great...then I told people about it...wow, the amount of negative feedback I got was amazing..and I did sell it.
I bought a C9 for $100 bux at a pawn shop, Ive put about 500 rounds through it and it has never jammed, and yes they are a pain in the butt to clean, but you can do it easily if you bore the hole a little bit.
I also have the Hi-Point .45, It is much better..also never jammed
Anyway, They work, they might not look great or have a great rep, but when it comes down to it Id rather have my C9..than a stick.
(but as soon as I get my Springfield 1911, Im giving it to my girlfriend!)
That was the whole video? What a waste of time...give me back those 66 seconds, NOW!!!
the ammo in the video probably cost more that the piece.
well... if it doesn't shoot, you could always throw it at someone, or use it as a paper weight.
Relying on a hi point has worse odds than the raiders winning the superbowl next year
Y’ know what?
I’m tired of all you gun snobs out there…
I have a 995 that I have fired a thousand rounds through and have never cleaned it, not even wiped it down. I have used the cheapest broke-dick ammo and have done my best to make it fail. I throw it under the seat in my pickup without a second thought.
It shoots straight, every time. No failures.
It’s freaking deadly at 50 yards. It can put 5 in 5 at 50 with iron sights. That’s called ‘Home Defense”.
Stick your high-dollar weapon behind the back door, hey, or stuff it and shut the fuck up…
i would be willing to stand 50 yard away from you and bet you couldn't hit me in 5 shots
to gunslot, regardless of how shitty the pistol is I think that I would hesitate being shot at willingly by anything more than a pellet gun at 50 yds.JMHO.
Keep you eye on the Chargers
screw you idiots who knock a decent working handgun just because you paid four to eight times more for your piece that will cost you even more when something goes wrong with it. The only Hi-point you probably will ever experience is when you get HIGH and POINT it at someone.
you mr. anonymous are the idiot.
if u must even think high point is even close to be a decent handgun..lol...lets just say,, ur fishing at the bottm of the pile save ur money buy, do some homework and spend it wisly... P.S. pawn the high point
Are you crazy ?
Where in the hell is a pawn shop who will take one
Best value for a handgun I've ever seen. A quality weapon with fantastic accuracy at a great price.
Amazing how the Anonymous ones are the only tools saying that this weapon is worth anything...its horrible!!
I do own one and all i can say is you get what you pay for. But i will say it shot better then a ruger p 94 9mm i had. get it had. i use mine when i go out fishing, for snakes and such. i feel if it goes in the drink i'm only out like one hundo. bucks ha ha
You say that high points are crap, but you never elaborate.
I have been considering buying one, it seems like there would be little to lose. So far I havent actually seen one (I will have to drive 50 mi to see one), maybe when I hold one I will understand.
But there seem to be more owners raving about them than those that don't like em and no real reason given for the bad reviews.
The worst anyone has said (in online reviews) is they are ugly and clunky, well so are the Glocks in my opinion and everyone seems to be gaga over Glocks.
I own one for plinking. Thats it. I have 200 rounds through it and only a couple of clips without a jam of some kind. Not a gas reload straight recoil
It is back to the factory for a rework to try and get it to shoot consistantly. Maybe I just got a bad one but......
.357 revolver 180 grain JHPs for home defense. NEVER a miss fire.
The last thing you said made me consider
you a friend for life 357 wheel guns
can't be beat
LMAO, glocks ugly? glock is a damn princess compared to this ugly gun. I: prefer function over fashion but I think the glock is pretty. not like a 1911 but its a sweet gun, I love mine, no jams or misfires ever. Everything from the handle to the ejection port is just straight hideous. Ive never shot one so I cant say anything but its ugly, for sure beats having no gun.
i agree that glock are ugly. but they are reliable. Hi-Points are not.
My buddy had a .40 Hi-Point (which I've shot numerous times), and it wouldn't even feed any type of hollow point. So he had to rely on ball fmj ammo for defense. It also jammed a lot. The frame eventually cracked.
If someone has not shot many pistols before... or is not very experienced with handguns, they may shoot a Hi-Point and like it. It will "Go Bang".
It all comes down to personal preference. If you shoot a Hi-Point and like it, then get one. Like someone said above, they are only $100, and you get what you pay for.
Personally, if my life... or my families lives are on the line, I would rather not be holding a Hi-Point. I would rather wait till I could afford something decent. Even Handguns in the $300 range (such as S&W sigma, or some rugers) are quite a bit more reliable. Even though I don't prefer these either, IN MY OPINION, they are much better choices than a Hi-Point.
Best case... save up and buy a brand that has built a reputation for durability (Glock, M&P, XD, HK, Sig, FNH etc). after all, you want to be able to put thousands of rounds through a weapon without failure or significant wear.
If you are a Hi-Point jockey... no need to get all heated at me. This is just my opinion, but it is justified by personal experience, and experience of others around me who know firearms.
you hit it on the money, there's a reason the hi point is so cheap. buying a firearm on price alone is never a good reason. we all have the internet so do a little shopping first. you may be in the seat that needs an affordable handgun, it may be the perfect gun for you.
I just thought I might be able to get more bang for the buck, so to speak. And a lifetime warenty is hard to beat (good only as long as the company lasts!). I have been going only on web research so far so I appreciate the good advice. I do own a Sig p232 for several years and have never been sorry (If I had it to do over though I would go with a 9mm)
Keep buying Sig, you'll never go wrong. I've got a P229 in .40
if your comfortable with your weapon odds are your proficent with it, thats half the battle. i've shot a hi-point, when i pulled the trigger, a bullet was fired. some people, thats all they need.
just wondering how this video is so popular. everytime I look at recently viewed videos, this one has just been played. anyone know what the obsession is?
all newbies start looking for something cheap! So they look at Hi-Point. but after a day on this sight, it probably really educates them.
I've have seen people walk in our gun shop/shooting center looking to trade them in. We wouldn't even consider. They are great for the fish tank. I've seen them malfunction on the range. You get what you pay for. Some of them might be good. A few good apples of the bunch. However as for the carbines in 9mm find a ruger pc-9, can't get any better than that. Even more studier than the ar-types.I owned one in a forty. Should have keept it.
i have fired them and i think they are crap and if you wanna conceal it have fun trying to find a comfortable holster or place to carry it concealed
even guys on the street that hold their guns side ways and walk and in the store with there clip asking me what caliber there guns shoots (idiots) tell me that hi points are crap
ive never fired a hi point, so i cant really say either way. but ive fired cheap 9 mm i believe it was a stevens? wich jammed alot i had a ruger that fired just fine now i own a taurus 9mm pro wich i like alot
i have yet for my high point to stop firing or jam and i havent cleaned it since i bought it i just srpay oil in it when i want to shoot it its got about 500 rounds though it so far i let you know when it blows up
by hearing everybody opinion on hi-points this is a love it or hate it gun i own several hi-points that shoots good the only problem i had was takin it apart for cleaning to many 0pen loose parts that you couid lose easily
BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE A REASON WHY YOU CAN BUY A NEW .45 FOR JUST UNDER $200.00
ya there is a reason it's called volume sales.
i received a email from the manufactor that told me they are cutting back on advertisement in order to lower the demand so they can keep up
their 2 reasons hi-points are cheaper than other other guns by being a blowback their way cheaper to make than other guns and throw in a polymer frame that is also cheaper than a metal,alloy frame and another reason its slide is a inexpensive zinc alloy compare to a steel slide, they use cheap but durable materials to make their guns and thats why their cheap and ugly but their still pretty good
I'VE GOT A BUDDY ( NOT SAMD) WHO WANTS TO GET ONE, ILL PASS ON THIS INFO , LET HIM BUY ONE AND SHOOT HIS.THANKS KENCOOL2
i made several good comments about hi-points i go to the shooting range a lot and shoot lots of rounds for fun this is the reason i got my hi-points for their warranty covers wear and tear ,my other more expensive guns i own have limited warranties and don,t cover wear and tear and when you shoot a lot like me i don,t want to wear out my smithwesson glocks and berettas their better than hi-points but to expensive to abuse and don,t have the warranty of hi-points
THAT'S WHY IM LEANING TOWARDS GETTING A TAURUS 24-7 .45. GOOD DURABLE GUN , NOT TO EXOENSIVE AND A LIFE TIME WARRENTY.I'VE GOT A STOEGER COUGER 9 MM. AND WILL PICK UP A WALTHER P22 THIS WEEK. FOR FUN, AND TO TEACH MY WIFE HOW TO SHOOT.
P22 to teach beginners from 10 years old and up. They all love it and want to take it home with them. It is one great little pistol.
they get good reviews. and for the price you could put one in every room in the house.
AND THEY ARE PRETTY COOL LOOKING GUNS TOO.I LIKED THE FEEL IN MY HAND, AND IT WON'T SCARE THE SHIT OUT OF THE OLD LADY.
I've own a 40&45 poly frame hi-point. Never once had a problem. (feels like a ruger p345 2 me) That being said, they are not the ideal gun 4 me to carry only because of size. If they had a compact version, I would because of the fact it is so cheap if it gets stolen or beat all to hell..........it's no big deal (pocket change pistol)!
yes that video was stupid. But for all you keyboard cowboys out there that bad mouth hi points when you never even shot one are the same people that spend 1000 dollars on a gun because someone told them to, then shit there pants when they have to use it and end up missing anyway after firing off 5 or 6 rounds. Any gun can kill, any gun can jam, and gun can and will malfunction. it's the person holding it that matters.
WoW that looks like CRAP! I wonder ho it fires though?
read the reviews. I haven't heard to much good about them. For few hundred more you can get a Glock and know it is gonna work.
samD is right. I've never fired one before but i already know the kick on it must be bad with a slide that size.
But i wouldnt get a glock, i'd buy a wather lol
as for the movie...what a waste of time. Who makes a pistol movie and doesn't show it in action? Sheesh...
I don't like glocks. Yes they will fire when you need them. But i don't want to trust my life to a Plastic gun. I like H&K or Sig Sauer is good.
From my experience, the Sig Sauer, in .22 anyway, is a piece of shit, now I don't own, nor have I ever shot a Glock, but I intend to, real soon.....My Walther PPS is a "plastic gun" and I trust my life and my families lives to it!
Last time I checked, most HK's are plastic too. Except the older ones like a P7. But, all the new HK handguns I've seen have plastic frames, the USP, the Mk 23, p2000 etc etc. And HK actually manufactured the first plastic gun before Glock. It just didn't sell all that well.
The Glock is the fastest most effective defensive weapon you can carry. Read the reviews on them. When I have to pull it, I don't have to fumble with a safety. It is nearly indestructible. Trust me on this one...
H&K draws very quickly! that is indestructible, you can add silencers and you don't fumble around with the safty. I like the H&K.
I'd trust my life to throwing a dull brick faster than i'd trust my life to shooting a glock...but thats just my opinion lol.
Another opinion of mine, always stick with the weapon you are most familiar with or prefer over others, so glock lovers use glocks and H&K lovers use H&K's ;)
Sorry my young friend only experience will cure your young mind. I will go with my Glock19 holstered at 10 yards, give you a 1 second head start with your brick and I will throw in a baseball bat. I guarantee you would be dead within 3 steps with 2 well placed center mass cavity shots and 1 cranial hole in your head. But that is just my opinion. Youth and exuberance is no match for old age and treachery. You will learn. Glocks are #1 for a reason. I have a license to carry one and do shoot alot.
You are a fucking idiot...
"Sorry my young friend only experience will cure your young mind."
You could end up very dead, shot by a rookie with a hundred-dollar handgun. I don't care how much time you spent in the shit. Don't be a dick...
benjb is an idoic asshole who who has probally never shot a glock hate them or not they are the most reliable pistols on the market and they are easy to use so spend 300 more and get a decent gun
I carried a Glock 19 for years as a ccw and off duty weapon. It was a great little pistol. I wish I had never traded it off. But the mini 14 I got for it works well. and I still have my trusty 1911al, she may not be as lite, she may not be as pretty, but she does make a large hole in what ever makes her mad.....
The Hi-Point is an incredibly cheap and reasonably unreliable handgun. However, you can find them in pawn shops for around $60-$100. American made, lifetime warranty, it's decent for a plinker or a starter if this is your first handgun, but not much else.
i have a jcp 40sw an i like the damn thing ive shot 400rds hollow points an ball through it droped it off a cliff about40 ft went swiming by its self had 1 miss fire through out its life i wanted a cheap gun.just in case i lost it.i cant complain none
It's a friggin' hi point.....wtf...That's like filming a video of a Deawoo and making it out to be a Lamborghini....
DONT BASH IT IVE NEVER HAD A BETTER PAPER WEIGHT IN MY OFFICE EVER I MEAN HOW GREAT IS A DOOR STOP COMBO PAPER WEIGHT. I MEAN REALY AFTER 500 ROUNDS IT FIRES LIKE A DREAM?? HOLD ON MR PERP LET ME SHOOT MY JUNK A FEW HUNDRED TIMES BEFORE U TRY AND ROB RAPE MURDER ME!!!
MELT IT DOWN AND MAKE A SPARE MAG FOR A SIG HI POINT JUNK!!
Not to bad of a hand gun mine fires very true and plus i keep it very clean and matained
eh, definitley not my choice of a handgun..I'd say its an alright starter pistol..but besides that its not in my choice of guns.
HAD one in 45-acp quite a piece i got it sighted in and had some practice time with it. Put several hundred rounds through it never ever had any problems. But it is very bulky.I sold it for what i paid for it and bought a stainless llama in 45-acp used from a guy that was hard up for cash that shoots great!
ugly and bulky ... but a good gun for the price !!!!
i have several high-point guns
and i can say when i carried mine during desert storm
and desert sheild they killed just the same as any other
battle of bull run, and the siege of Vicksburg, never a better weapon..
It's overbuilt because it's made from the same material that matchbox cars are made from.
If you actually (illegally, I might add) actually took a hi point to a war zone, you're proof that not everyone in the military knows much about guns.
Why, anyone would choose a hi point, over a quality CZ52, CZ83, FEG, or some other eastern euro pistol, usually within 20 bucks of the hi-point junkpile is beyond me. All those guns I named are military grade, serious defensive pistols.
The poo-point is quite cheaply made and marketed to it's target audience. Saggy-pants wearing changos who call it a "Glock", which, it very surely is not.
But what do I know, 15 years in the gun manufacturing business.
Even if he did take one of these pices of shit to DS, I challenge this idiot to provide evidence of having used it in combat. Fuckin moron. Some have great experience with these, some have bad experiences. That's the biggest problem with hi-point; it's not that they're all junk, it's that thei quality control is so bad you have guns manufactured on the same day that vary so widely in quality. Fuck the Hi-Point.
Let me start off by saying that I do not own a High Point and have never shot one. In the September/October issue of American Handgunner they do a review of .380 handguns and the High Point is among them. The High Point was rated second among the guns they reviewed. They review a Kel Tec, a Ruger, a Bersa, Kahr, and a Walther PPK.
If a High Point is what you can afford, and if it goes "bang" every time you pull the trigger, then by all means buy one. If you don't like them and/or can afford something more expensive then go for the higher price tag. But all of this "I'd wait till I could afford something else" doesn't answer the problem of someone being unarmed until they can (if ever) afford something higher priced. If a High Point is what someone chooses, leave them alone with that choice and support their decision to arm themselves.
But, would you bet your life on it?
If so then it's the pistol for you.
. it shoots
Hi point 45 was my first handgun as it was all that i could afford back in college. I have since shot about 1200 rounds through it including +p rated handloads without a problem. For a starter handgun that cost 150 bucks I have no qualms with it. I put alot of holes in beer cans with it. But in all fairness, it's not a great gun and it's clunky. But it started my gun buying habit so it can't be that bad right?
I registered just to post this. Awesome and thoughtful Video!
I do not have the 9mm, however, I have both the 40S&W and the 45ACP. Yes, they are not pretty but they are practical and worth thinking about.
I have taught all 6 of my children how to shoot. My 12 year old daughter is a bit small to handle either. However, my 15 year old son and my 17 year old son have no problems with the 40S&W. And, I have no problem with either the 40S&W or the 45ACP. We have shot nearly 1200 rounds through the 40 and I have shot about 400 with the 45.
I believe in breaking in firearms as my Daddy taught me. Clean and lube when bought then shoot 5 rounds... clean and lightly lube bore, shoot 10 rounds... clean and lightly lube bore, 20 rounds clean and lightly lube bore, 30-40-50 same and done. Good until one decides to clean and lube again.
I have only had a few failures to chamber and fire with all the firearms I have owned in the last 50 years. Both were my Rugers. For those who can not hold out 3 lbs with 2 hands. You better get some exercise and get some muscle on those puny arms. If a Grandma like me can handle the 45ACP... what is your excuse.
I hate to be a prick, but you couldnt pay me to take that gun..absolutely the cheapest piece of crap you could ever fire a round through.. and the guy that said Glocks are crap, c'mon now that is just ridiculous, have you ever owned or fired one to make that opinion?
Hipoint? If you like the Hipoint so much, then why do you have a Glock for an Avator?
Keep the Glock Picture up as a seed and you will some day get a real GUN!!
Para, SW, Kimber, Are what you show your friends! (Beautifull GUNS)
Glock is what you show your Enimies!!!
Son, the music with the vedio sounds like I'm at a funeral!
Keep the Avatar of the GLOCK!
This is SEED needed for when you get ready to buy a REAL GUN!
Kimber; S/W; Colt; ect, ect, are what you show your friends, VERY NICE WEAPONS!!!
GLOCK, is what you show your Enamies!
Don't Bitch Guys, cause I said that. I wouldn't through my Kimber in the brush while in a fight with a Perp.
When I buy a new or used, I save up for the purchase, and some times trade a gun for the rest of the transaction.
Someone will buy this hand gun from you when you are ready to upgrade, when you make the trade, beshure that its a law abidding person!
the first gun I shot was hipoint 9mm, It was comfortable in my hand and I experienced 0 malfunctions during the approx 200 rounds I shot that day. It seems to me to be a great plinking gun, however this would not be my first choice as I am looking for something small for daily concealed carry.
Hi-Point C9, we used to call these a "Saturday Nite Special" Or the "Disposeable Gun" This was back in the 60's
Use it once and throw it away. You could buy 50 for $40.00. That is when they came with no stamping on them, then the Brady Bitch caused such a stink, they started stamping serial #'s
and cal. size. Now they cost more.
ps, I have a collage degree in b.s. and I know what I'm talkn bout!
the whole argument about a "plastic" gun is BS,the Glock is 83% steel,it's only a US media generated story written in the 80s to invoke fear about the possibility that Glocks could pass thru a airport metal detector undetected,anyone that knows guns knows this,now go out there and crush anyone that would try and tell you different,you are now one of the chosen few.
I have read about all of the hoopla surrounding the glock. The composite
frame on my Walther does alot to cut down on weight and I would wager
that it is 80% steel as well, the slide is most of the gun.
Had one. hit a 20 oz. bottle at 75 yards no problem. never jammed. Only fault is its heavy like a brick but for the price you can't beat it.
I have one. and beyond it being top heavy and bulky as it can get it . it has never fouled on me once. and i say for .145$..it's not a bad deal i may not stop carrying my xd for it anytime soon but it sure isn't the worst handgun ive ever owned.
i bought a kimber ultra carry II stainless .45 acp for around $900 and it jammed at least 2 times per 7 rounds. my hi-point c9 9mm ($165) has never jammed. so go ahead and buy top dollar guns that jam & suck ass. ill stick with my $165 gun that i KNOW fires everytime. im done buying top dollar.
after that it was just blah!,blah!,blah!
You know I felt they were crap until I shot one. My kid brother has one and he took alot of crap from me about it. Then we went to the range he had about 200 rounds for his aimpoint and we shot it all. It never had a problem. And I changed my mind about aimpoint. I still would'nt carry one due to it's wieght but as a home defence gun yea i would use it
15 bucks for it if you pay the shipping
I always get a laugh out of people claiming their Hi-point is reliable because they have 500 rounds without a jam. BFD! I've owned two C-9's. They weigh a ton, have the same bulk as a 45, and have about the same kick as my XD45. Guess what happens if you bump the rear sight just a bit too hard. The adjustment screw slams through the pot metal threads and your next shot will be a foot low at 15 yards. Don't get me started on out of the box reliability. There is a whole forum dedicated to Hi-Point owners and most of it is how-to's for fixing out of box issues. And finally, in case anybody wants to know what the typical longevity of a C-9 is, around 1.5K - 2K rounds, the steel firing pin gals out the pot metal channel it travels through and you start getting light primer strikes. So if you want a gun that will cost less than the first case of ammo, last about a case and a half, may take hours of work to get functional, be useless for pretty much anything other than a fun gun, go for it. But don't take the word of some bone head that thinks Hi-Points are the best thing out there just because they couldn't bother to break in a 1911, or they think that just because it goes boom for each of the first 500 rounds that it is just as good as a Glock.
ther is nothing wrong with hi point i got the pistol and carbine in 40cal and they have never given me any probs my wifes taurus jammed on her twice and me once at the range saturday while I messed around with hers she ran 3 mags thru my hi point and didn't want to give it back till she tried to conceal it so far my 150 was a far better investment than her 350
Go in peace http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/Forum/index.php
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What's this about, Hank? Did your keyboard slip or what?
you call names? Are you going to haunt this site until we all see things your way? You know what that sounds like to me?.........Well I won't say it because then I would be calling names, hint It starts with L
We get them from time to time. Once he has trigger time behind a real combat pistol, I have a feeling he'll change his mind. Hank, play nice or you will be banished to the land of expensive paper weights
I have a Hi-Point C9. It has never disappointed me. For the people saying spend some time behind a combat pistol i have had time firing and field stripping an
S&W Sigma .40 cal. It was to the point where it wouldnt even chamber without jamming and it only had a few hundred of rounds through it. ive had my C9 for close to six years, cycled thousands of rounds through it and never had a problem with it. Also, glocks are the ugliest guns ive ever seen in my life and there are just as many glocks in police lock up because people want to spend way to much on a pistol to use being idiots. i hate glocks. Anyone doubting Hi-Points go to youtube and look at the torture test that tards that critisise them look stupid because they wont break unless put in test that your glock or S&W would break just the same. Yet still the best part is i could smash my Hi-Point with a hammer, send it back to them and get a new gun in a week or two. Try that with your glock or S&W and see the response. Im going to laugh myself to sleep when i get my new Hi-Point, while u spend $300 to $600 on your new gun. Anyone reading this ignore the critics downing Hi-Points. Keep them oiled and use Winchester ammo. Id trust mine and my families lives with my C9 without any second thoughts.
that's a good one,this guy has "wrong"covered any which way you can think of,obviously an escapee from hi-pointlove.com.He compared it to a Sigma....priceless.He said Glocks are ugly....hahahaha! oh man it's a good day.
hey lillyk47 first of all we all have the right to express our opinions,thats what the sight is for.glocks ugly?i agree,but ill take function over form any day of the week.hi point carbines are nothing more than a shitty pistol with a shitty sight system shitty stock and a longer barrel.id personaly feel like i paid too much if one was given to me.anyway,my original point is why do you new kids join the site,talk shit to older(and infinately more knowledgeable members).you tube proof videos?well,im not sure if you know this,but net vids are well known for being fake.learn somthin new every day hu?im pretty sure i saw somone make a mini nuke bomb on their patio table before.anyway,welcome to gunslot,have fun with your low point :)
Well when berretta, Glock or any other gun maker comes out with the same unlimited warranty we'll talk, until then I have literally fired thousands of guns over the years, and between me and two of my family we own well over 100 different guns, and none of them have the warranty and very few have the reliability that I have seen so far with the .45 and the 9mm carbine, and both have reached the well over a couple thousand mark in ammo run through them, I reload and me and the family hit the range every sunday, and the 995 is a favorite of everyone. but yes they are ugly and clunky but so is my saiga .12 gauge and every glock ever made and that still wont stop me from buying them either
i have lots of gunns some 5k plus i have a 45 hipoint it was 140 when i got it and i havent had any problems with it ya its a lil slopy but what do you expect for a 140 doller gunn if it came down to it i whould trust it.and it may be the only gunn some1 can aford and if thats the case by all means id buy 1 its better to have a hipoint than no gunn at all and for all you haters that can aford 1k hand gunns and you feal the need to make funn of some1 that caint id b happy to come to your house and have a lil shooting contest with ur s&w or whatever and my hipoint i bet you lose
I love my hi-point, Best wheel chock i have ever uded when changing my trucks oil & filter. No really, The truck won't roll, VERY safe.
I wonder how many of these are in police evidence rooms?
it shoot fine for about the first 500 rounds no misfires at least but it took a couple hundred rounds to get it broke in so it would stop jamming but at 550-900 rounds it started misfiring ALOT an i mean ALOT i shot 250 rounds of winchester fmj an i had 58 misfires i dont know about you guys that are swearing by the c9 but 58 out of 250 is to damn much i mean it misfired a quarter of the time!!!!!!! im ready to sell my c9 an buy my glock 17 im so disapointed with the hi point an i dont recomend anyone to geting on its a waste of money unless you just need a throw away gun or something like that...... but i did call hi point an they did honor the lifetime warranty an sent me a new firing pin spring an it fixed the problem for about 500 more rounds and it started misfiring again and again an again so i guess they use shitty materials an you have to replace the spring every 500 rounds an to me thats not good enough!!!!!! i bought my c9 brand new in the box an ive put over 1500 rounds though this c9 an ive had to change the spring 2 times an now im just ready to get rid of it so im going to get another spring so i might have a chance to sell it an get 50 or 100 bucks for it i paid 189 for it new so it might be possible who knows someone might have a use for it i know i dont i wouldnt trust this gun with my life an i regret buying it but it was my first gun an i didnt know any better.. i knew someone who had one an they spoke highly of their hi point but they still havent even put 300 rounds though it so he doesnt know about the problems it has at 500 rounds but JUST BE AWARE THAT THE HI POINT C9 HAS MANY CHEAPLY MADE PARTS AND THEY WEAR OUT PRETTY QUICK SO THINK BE FOR YOU DECIDE TO BUY ONE
Since I only bought it yesterday I can't argue one way or another about it's performance. But I am reasonably sure it will do what I want. I can throw it in the truck, and not worry about it 1/2 as much as an expensive hand gun. Hopefully never needing it. I would guess that if I ever did, that the brand would not make a difference to my attacker. I would also guess that the one with the first shot has the advantage. That being said, if you want to talk about junk I owned a piece of junk, a S&W Sigma series 9mm. I bought the gun a guy at work who was in a bind for some money. He had purchased it new, and from the look of it, and what he told me had not shot it much. I stopped on the way home shot 4 or 5 rounds threw it the truck for about 6 years only taking it out occasionally the check and clean it. Then my son became interested in shooting so I took it out and we shot about 4 or 5 clips in it and had a round blow up in the chamber. took it home cleaned and inspected it did not find anything wrong. took it back a week later on the third shot another round blew up in chamber blowing the magazine 1/2 out and a huge chunk out of the polymer frame just above my hand and cracking on the other side. Smith and Wesson response was since I wasn't the original purchaser they could do nothing about it.
Were they factory loads or your own?
What is this, a bunch of 12 years old that have never fired a gun in their life, let alone think they know anything about guns. You can run over a hi-point with a 30 ton M1 Abrem, pick it up and if it is not smashed, it will fire. If it won't you can send it to the company and get a brand new one no questions asked.
Try that with Glock, Sig, S&W, Kimber, Ruger. I am not saying that they won't, but I am going to say that you will have to explain what happened.
Put them all, I don't care the models, side by side. they will both shoot a damn, bullet. you sqeeze the trigger a bullet will come out. So you tell me, what is more important to you when you are defending yourself, the fact that it looks like crap, or the fact that you are still alive because you could shoot to defend yourself.
Wait, let me elaborate for you so you don't get too confused about what people that know something about guns mean. Rager, Beretta, S&W, Kimber, Colt, Browning, Winch, you name the brand, go ahead, they can all jam, they can all missfeed, they can all malfunction.
With that you morons think a brand like Hi-Point is a POS......... Grow up, research, shoot, if after all they, you can come up with the facts that would make me or anyone that knows anything about guns in general turn our nose up to Hi-point, cus personally, for the money, I would put it up against anything out there.
Yeah, that is a challenge, so put up or STHU because you don't know jack.
For those that have good insite on gun of different brands in general, ty for your input. but until someone proves to me that my family could not defend themselves with a Hi-point against a moron trying to hurt them I will rest my case.
Go ahead, do your worst, but I will say this. can you defend your family while you were saving $1000 for a pretty gun, I will be defending my family with one that was $150.
Have a nice day
Mommy wants me to go beddy-bye now, be back to play tomorrow LOL
Nitey nite commander :<)
I've seen 'em, held 'em and shot them, I rented one a year or so ago when I originally bad mouthed them (felt bad about it)....I have never held a more foul weapon in my life (other than at the toy gun isle at Toys-R-Us)....FTF, FTE, failure, failure, failure this weapon had some rounds through it as a demo (broken in) and it was a piece of shit.....$150~ is better spent on ammo for a good gun.
play nice or i will kick you out of the sandbox!
Never even held one, so I have no basis for opinion. I think I'll go get me one just so I can decide for myself. $150.00, Made in USA, no question warranty. I'll give it a go. Now I just gotta find a dealer who carries them. Really, I haven't seen one in the local shops.
just quoting here "Rager, Beretta, S&W, Kimber, Colt, Browning, Winch" im thinking CDR is maybe Lyle.. Least Lyle with a cup or two of coffee over the line.. YOU GUYS REMEMBER LYLE.. miss that brother.. Every once in awhile i bring up chicken D. just to re read our bud Lyle..
Hi Points.. Don't know.. never had one.. read this couple years ago.. surprised then at all the emotion they stir up.. Time for old Rodney King to stop by.. "can't we all just get along".. If you guys remember Rodney said this after being on the receiving end of like 43 baton blows.. going out on a limb and guessing his original statement wasn't so sweet..
This isn't Lyle, sorry
Just the opinion of another 12 yo who thinks they know a thing or two about guns... On a SLOW month I put at least 1500 rounds down range. I own multiple guns, everything from bushmaster to Taurus. I've fired a hi-point, and I will NOT pay money for one. They feel like crap in the hand, I personally found it next to impossible to reflexively fire with any accuracy, and I had 1 round jam out of my first 2 magazines. The gun wasn't new, but was clean and oiled. I'm glad your happy with your gun, but I'll spend a little bit more, and have a gun I TRUST. I personally feel my life and the lives of my family are worth it.
Bought mine at auction with 5 clips holster and laser for $85.00 son of bitch jamed first five rounds thought I got took on one ugly gun, trying to prove a point or just to see for myself! Well took the bastard home (not one much for factory work) took it apart did some polishing here and there,and big hang up on the feed ramp! Back to the range and all 5 mags went through with no problems and then another 5 still don't know what to think of it other then when I'm in the canoe that's the pistol to take, as I tend to drink and dump it most of the time! so if it falls in the river Ok that better then losing my Colt or Sig kind of reminds me of a Jennings!
Slow down buddy...
It seems you might have brushed up against something an contracted Optical Rectalitus which has induced a slight case of Vernacular Diarrhea...
Your Optic Nerve Crossed wires with your Rectal Nerve giving you a seriously crappy out look with an uncontrollable spewing of crap while attempting to communicate with people you know nothing about.
If you like your Highpoint, then power to you. It's yours, you can play with it all you want and you can even tell others about it in public if that is what you want to do. But slow down, no one wants to take it from you. Others are of the opinion that it's a turd, ok, so to them, me, it is a turd. You can wrap it up anyway you want to, it is still a turd to me.
For those who bought them and own them power to them. But that doesn't mean that if anyone asks me in a Concealed Carry Class that I am in charge of "Is the Highpoint a good choice for personal protection?", that I am going to in good consonance tell them that Highpoint is the one to have, your nucking futz.
It's too bad we don't know nuttin' 'bout guns. :D
I like the inside the waistband holsters for mine.. tried shoulder holsters, but to be honest the "aroma" effected my SA and i had to give them up..
Remember the old adage.. never bring a knife to a turd fight..
It's late.. night all..
Jeez, I just spit coffee on my monitor. I missed some good late night stuff.
Man im glad i wondered back into this thread.. Can't wait till i read the balance, and yep im with you on the late night stuff..Seems a few beers makes things a bit easier to handle.. Least till you get to the point where they cause more issues.. this after learning that Randy Travis is facing his second DWI .. Seems brother Randy is going thru a messy divorce, and this last one found him neeked.. yup, and a black eye.. Didn't get the details, just saw this a moment ago on Fox, but guessing it was quite a night..
Still miss the late nights, and sure will be glad when i can get the lap top hooked back up to have them..
It's good hearing from you again. Too bad all the drama took away from us conversing. I'll try to get back on later.
You guys make me laugh. One person mentions about the stupid comments that are made at one brand of gun and you all go ballistic.
My point is, for those that aren't able to make enough money to buy a hi end gun for home defense, the Hi-Point is a perfect gun for that. I will be glad to go out to the range with any one and fire it right next to you as you pull you balls out of your holster and shoot your wad down range to make yourself feel better.
I really don't care if you have an arsenal, it really doesn't impress me. My simple point was that a Hi-Point is $150. Compare that to the Kimber, S&W (which I own btw) and many others that you are looking at close to $1000. Am I wrong, I don't think so. Sure, Hi-Point is ugly, bulgy, and low end, but it gets the job done. Key word "DONE".
My ex-Wife worked for Corbon and in the summers they would have this huge picnic which involved high executives from companies like S&W, Remington, Browning, Cult, etc... so I have shot pretty much everything that has been made, plus I have 13 yrs in the military.
I am not saying that your guns (That you own) are not better than a Hi-point, I am saying that when all you do, as a comment is dog them, makes you look like a 12 yr old (example: Crap crap crap crap crap crap).
The fact that you shot it and didn't like it is only circumstantial evidence. As I stated before, show me the facts. Tell me that it can't protect you with proof of your argument, Prove to me that it is not a durable, reliable weapon. Can you do that because I have fired it, and found it to be a very reliable shooter.
Basically it comes down to the money. As I stated before, a guy can go buy one for 150 bucks to protect his home and his family, for $150! Not everyone is rolling enough doe in today's economy to go buy a gun for close to 1g just for home defense. because in the time he is trying to save that much money he could become a victim of a home invasion. But if he spends $150 bucks from his next paycheck he will have a reliable weapon to protect his home with.
Sorry guys, it just all comes down to the bottom dollar.
Sure some of you haters have several guns. but you are not in that house that needs that protections.
They are not a bad gun, they just aren't a Kimber or a S&W. So stop being so shallow minded and get off your high horse because you have high end weapons to help compensate for your lack of manhood.
No pun intended.
and I see the post you are pointing at ("crap crap crap") yeah, that is definitely what the guys I shoot with tend to call a spunk junkie (pussy).
Generalizations, lend to inference, lead to contention....
I agree if that is what you were commenting upon. The person who posted that comment was more than childish. The manner in which they posted leads me to question the validity of any other post I might come across of theirs.
Seemingly to have generalized your comment to include everyone who has no use for a highpoint and calling them all 12 year olds is probably not what was intended in the least...
If that is the case, I apologize for my reaction to it. I know I took your comments in that manner which is my bad...
After last night, Tebow might be the most famous bronco since O.J. drove one down the L.A. expressway with Al Cowlings...
Another POD nominee.
Being a Cowboys fan, I hate the Steelers with every fiber of my being. So, yeah, GREAT game. >:)
Thanks for the PSA. Very informational.
Raven .25 for home protection. I'd thought about a Lorcin but they're too expensive. Good choice?
the only bad thing I've heard about it is the caliber and possibly a higher chance for accidental discharges.
Myself, I feel the .25 is plenty. I would like something with a little more weight and zip, but as we've discussed before, the best pistol for self defense is the one you have and can use. I've read the Armed Citizen enough to know that there are plenty of people out there stopping threats with as little as the .22LR. Just remember the rounds limitations and over come them with shot placement and it is an effective round.
I think Sam would agree. I'm pretty sure he carries a .25
I also have my trusty Glock 19. I use Hornaday 35 gr. JHP/XTP ammo in the .25. Mine is a Baretta, very reliable. To date I have never had a misfire or malfunction of any kind. I carry it in a FIST Pocket Holster and really it never imprints and is always ready. It is like my security blanket. There is one in the pipe and seven in the mag. Carry an extra mag also. I wear cargo shorts 11 months out of the year here in Arizona. 5:11 out of LA. Big pockets room for extra mags.
I wish I could find something small in 9mm to carry in my pocket, but most are way to expensive or cheaply constructed.
though I am of the opinion that a larger caliber would be in order, but hey a .25 is better than nothing.
thought about the .177 pellet pistol I've kept in the night stand. I tried it on a watermellon since that closely resembles a ghetto gang member punk's head (and fav food) but the pellets simply bounced off.
You're right about the caliber though, maybe a .380 Raven, chrome plated with plastic pearl grip panels? $89.99 and it comes in a presentation quality paper box.
Hey Pin Head, if your going to have people who do not have allot of money buying Home Defense weapons at lower pricing then do them a real favor and point them at some thing they should be using for home defense.
This 3" chamber 4 + 1 round pump action 12 gauge shotgun includes a black synthetic stock, blued finish, cylinder bore choke, Picatinny rail, weight of 7 pounds, 18.5" barrel and overall length of 38.5".
excellent advice, there isn't anything more dependable than a 12ga.
It's a Boat Gun too !
Mark bought three of these Norinco knock offs. One for his boat, one for his truck and the other for his son. Never have a problem with any of them when we blow apart plywood silhouettes we cut up and stand.
He also has one of the Norinco Winchester Model 12 Trench knock offs which is another fun, functioning all around firearm I would also use for home defense....
"So stop being so shallow minded and get off your high horse because you have high end weapons to help compensate for your lack of manhood"..
CDR. word of advise.. we're really not a bunch of gun snobs..It's just the attitude that we have an issue with,.
Daisy.. re the Raven request. (i got it) Guy came on here year or so ago.. trying to sell it.. Quoting now.. "Raven 25 auto.. two tone.. has collector value" .. ..
see ya all in a couple.. being called.. guessing it's "Hillary" again..She's wearing me out with geopolitical questions.. Told her to just "glass em" ..but no.....
I shot mine at 26 yards a hit a a target 2 ft wide 6 feet tall so these guns can do some damage dont down grade them they are cheap but made in the <>
26 yards to "hit" a 2x6' target?well...im impressed.
low point aint got nothin on my daisy one pump!i can shoot the wings off a fly at 100 yards with my one pump.lol
(scratched) slide that says "Crips 4 evah" can hit a target of 2'X6' at 25yds, do it all the time.
I think I already mentioned my Raven earlier in this thread.
Pretty cool that the gun's value and caliber are identical
haha.good stuff daisy!lol.
WOW...what a bunch of gun snobs!! I wouldnt buy a hi-point but then again i would buy a plastic toy gun like a Glock much less a ruger or God forbid a S&W m&p. Why dont you toy soldiers go buy a real gun. for home defence I have a Korth 357 and a Tiki-t .45. Now those are REAL weapons. Who would buy a 9mm anyway? the only thing in its favor is mag capacity..but i dont need 15 rounds to get the job done! I know you all thought you were so cool picking on someone for there cheap gun but just know that people like me look at yall the same way!
years of this conversation would clear up, maybe, your misunderstanding.
As for glock snobs, LOL. You are speaking out of ignorance, again. I seriously doubt you'll stay long enough to get to know us but if you did you'd be embarassed by your own statements. As for your Tiki-t, LOL!
As for the Korth, it's beyond my budget and judging by your post, it's way beyond yours.
Hey, stay for awhile, get to know some folk, I may even tell you about my Cobra FS380.
Snobs indeed LOL
daisy pretty much sumed it up.one thing to add thoughj is ......how are we the real members of this site gun snobs when we are shooting the proverbial shit talkin about for instance a davis industries paperweight pistol or a crips foe evah engraved $.25/.25cal raven and your talking 5k pistols?lets see some picks FNG.ahh it feels like only 22 weeks 4 days ago when we were just having tis conversation.haha
Do ya 'spose rwilson even knows what a Tiki-t is? Seriously LOL!!`
he probably knows as much as me.i just googled it lol.been hot out here.till last friday i poured and stamped aprox 7 yds of mud every day.on a new job now...hustle hustle hustle.how you been?
No Daisy,it is you that missed the point. You were acting like an gun snob to anyone who didnt buy a "quality" weapon such as yourself. I am a collector as well as a shooter and i try to encourage everyone to get into the sport no matter there budget. I am not into the "mall-ninja" or fantastic plastic weapons that seem to be whats hot now. As far as getting what you pay for i know plenty of people at the range with mosin nagants and other $100 guns that enjoy the sport just as much as i do. When a newbie enters this sight and gets treated the way yall have it turns them off the sport all togather. I will post pics soon or maybe a video if it will help settle any doubt. The Korth and Tiki-t are not even my most expensive weapons...but i also have a marlin 60 that i paid $50 and it shoots like a dream!
but you've more than proven you deserve it.
Go to my profile, open all my pictures and check out my gun collection.
You are full of it, get over it and join us.
An interesting way to make friends you have there. Is that the way you normally introduce yourself? "Hi, I'm new here and you're all assholes."
You're a huge hypocrite in the fact you (falsely) claim we were being snobs by judging the C9 by its price. Those deriding this sidearm did so based on the fact that it is a useless piece of junk. But you then derided the vaporous collective based on the presumed choice of Glock and S&W while YOU have a Korth and Tiki-t. Who is the snob here? BTW, the Tiki-t is a great choice. Were I a billionaire, I would own one too.
And to call Daisy a snob clearly shows you didn't read these posts or know anything about him. He has a $25 Raven .25. Clearly, he is not lording his superiority over lesser gun enthusiasts.
For my opinion, I would not recommend the Hi-Point C9 to anyone. There are better guns to be had for only a little more money. I would by a used Springfield, Taurus, Glock, or S&W for $250 any day over this POS.
The grip is OK, but feels awkward to me. Granted, that's just my personal ergonomics. But the balance is poor and overall feel is klunky. The slide is ridiculous and is uncomfortable when shooting. While I like the trigger design as a straight pull, its performance is utterly sub-par. It has a loose fit and a double-action pull. Not desirable on a single action. And the fact that it is a single-action striker fire with just a thumb safety makes it impractical to carry in condition one.
It frequently jams and this seems to be a common issue whose suggested solution is to machine the parts to work correctly. This requirement seems to detract from the point of being inexpensive.
Also, based on the representation (the supporters of it on this thread and the company itself) I wouldn't give a high level of confidence in their ascertainment of its qualities.
The only newbies that are treated poorly by this community are the ones that come on board and begin denigrating the members. Rightfully so. If one were to come on and be cordial and disagree in a civil manner with our assessments, I assure you they would be welcomed.
Good day, sir.
You know what's worse than the gun pictured in this video?..... The music that goes along with it!! It sounds like theme music to some hallmark network movie.
So does anyone know how much one of these pistols cost? It seems to me that a better investment would be to buy a Glock, ammo, and training. In all the response reports I know about, not once did the bad guy stop due to economically superior firearms.
Mindset comes from training. As it has been typed here many times, go to a gun range, rent weapons to try and see what fits you the best. Buy that weapon, purchase training, and practice.
By the way, rwilson, 9mm has killed a lot of people in it's tenure, it is less money to train with; therefore you can train more for the same price. If you want to educate yourself more on the subject of wounding factors and effectiveness, I recommend http://www.firearmstactical.com/pdf/fbi-hwfe.pdf as a good place to start.
A used one is going for $2,800.
Seems like no one got the point so let me make this simple. I belong to a country club...lets say that you came to play and me and all my friends laughed at you for not having a set of 4,000 clubs...would you return again? doubtful. I have seen nothing in anyone heres collection that impresses me. i have no desire to belong to a group of elitist duechbags who play around with plastic toys. Goodbye and goodluck. when people turn away from ANY sport it is usually because of people like you"DAISY"
Are you slow in the head or a child? It is you not getting the point. No one made fun of the Hi Point because it wasn't high end or expensive. They more stated their opinion that it is an undesirable product. And no one got hostile except to those walking in with their fists swinging. Like you. Farewell to you and good riddance. You clearly aren't cognizant enough to converse with adults. Please pack your expensive toys I'm sure you totally really have and take a hike. Hypocrite.
I dont need to go to a web page for info...i know first hand. Why do you think the Marines are giving up the M9 and going back to the 1911 .45? The 9mm doesnt have the knock down power. If someone is hopped up on drugs you have to be able to put them down in order to stop them. if you need a smaller round a .40 is much better. I dont know if some of you are sniffing too much hoppes #9 or what but the point i was making is that i have an extensive firearms collection but dont judge others for theres or make childish comments like (crap,crap,crap) an act like an elitist duechbag. I try to help and encourage people in the sport and if someone comes in with a sub-par weapon i would not look down my nose at them...i would insted try and help them make the best of what the have. My point for putting down the glocks was to prove a point...serious collectors call them plastic toys,fantastic plastic,mall-ninja fair. I think they are ugly and are made out of plastic. everyone went off but didnt think for one second that that is how they just did the hi-point guys. Web forums are dumb anyway..calling each other "generals" and such.lmao is there a secret hand shake? maybe a decoder ring? I joined so mine would come up when i posted!
I am hoping you can explain to all of us elitist douche bags what it feels like to know everything. I research things and post the links to back up my opinions and said research. I do not believe for one second the altruistic nature you are trying to convey with your posts about wanting to help people. You have insulted the website and the members.
On a side note, I would consider Gunny Ermy a "serious collector", he supports Glock, and I do not think he has ever called it a mall ninja fair. The next time you decide to spout your lies and mis-truths called opinions, at least back them up with logic and well read evidence.
My suggestion to you based on your closing statements would be to leave the website. If you do not like the way it is run, put your tail between your legs and do not come back.
elitist douche bag
so can we call ya Bill..
Thats an old joke around here for obvious reasons.. and before anyone jumps all over you for ALL the obvious reasons, let me say that while your first post was a bit under whelming, when i read your second one i thought "ok" maybe this guy is for real.. Fact is i've been shooting for 50 years and have never seen a Korth..
We don't call each other General.. Don't know where you got that, but we don't .. Here is the bottom line.. NOTHING on this site is taken as serious unless photos are part of the act.. Go to my profile and you will see my guns, not here me talking about something i wish i had.. "if" you have a Korth, and again the second post made me think it's a possable.. Then you know enough about handguns that would make you a stand out member..
The etticate here is a tad less "in yo face" than you might think.. If you stick around you will find some great guys and a couple of gals who come here all the time.. nope no secret handshakes.. Well maybe they do and haven't told me yet, i've only been coming here for a couple years or so.. for real.. This is a good site... attitudes.. Well i'd hope so, you're dealing with a group of "alpha's" here. and yes i'm talking for real.. those posing as "A's" don't last long. So it goes without saying that some feathers get ruffled along the way..
by the way.. Daisycutter.. Lew's retired Navy.. Palma shooter (sure you get that) and good man.. We have a number of professional people here.. not "just" mall warriors.. Some very much for real folks.. retired military and LE for the most part.. Your call bud.. can we call you bill..
I am retired Army and then retired from a second job working as an exuctive with McDonald douglas. I belong to a gun range but spend most of my time at a homemade outdoor range teaching my grandkids to shoot and appreciate weapons. I spend very little time online unless im making an order,seeing whats for sale or checking email. A neighbor of mine has been asking adice on weapons fo a SHTF scenario. He has a mossberg 500,marlin 60 and a S&W m&p sport AR15. He is a hard worker but doesnt bring home much so my advice has leaned to the cheaper side of things. He asked about the C9 and i honestly couldnt give an opinion but i did see a toture test conducted on it online. While trying to find said vid i stumbled on this one and started to read the comments. I got pissed. Its this type of elitist BS that keeps people away from this sport. I tried to use the example of golf. I have over $4000 in clubs but if someone came with a bag of spauldings I wouldnt laugh,degrade and make them feel stupid because they cant afford what i buy. Everyone is focused on what i own and not the point im making. I own a large collection of firearms..its my passion,but not all are on the +1000 list. I own a Berretta jet fire .25,Browning A5 shotgun,Savage bolt actions,marlin lever actions,ect. One of my favorites is an older model Marlin 60 that i go plinking with the grandkids with. The Korth and Tiki-t while not as well known to some(I dont buy at gun shows,ect)are not even close to the value of some of my military collection. But the point was lost...this is my sport and if we cnt get nw people into it it will eventualy die just like the liberals woud love. Not one person has addressed my actual complaint...all i hear is chest beating and name calling because my collection seems better. what a shame!
As far as the Navy goes,that is not much of a recomendation to me. I would rather my grandson come home and tell me he is gay than he joined the navy!
Thank God you're above the name calling and deriding others for perceived "lesser" choices, or I'd hate to see what you would really say.
Admit it, you're an Obama supporter aren't you? Same MO. "You low life ignorant red necks are all unsophisticated and intolerant! Go Fuck Yourselves!"
Socialist thinking all the way.
ok.. slow down.. we all got here one way or the other.. the question on the table is if you stay..
This thread on the C-9.. meaningless
Gunslot. for real one of the best, and more enjoyable sites on the net..take a look at how long ALL of us have been on here.. of course this thread draws out the loons, that sir is not the issue. were going to go with you being a serious golfer.. Go to LLE.. open up his profile and see someone who was/is in the professional golf arena on a number of levils and is also a volenteer bugle player for taps across America..
RWilson.. Lets drop the drama here.. stick around long enough to read some of the other threads and see who we "really" are.. then do as you will.. For what it's worth a number of us also have collections (i have old Victory model Smith's) .. Not exactly sure why im extending this warm welcome.. maybe you caught me on a good day.. seriously i think i'm defending the site from being judged by this thread, and holding out the welcome sign.. come on in..
You Just pissed me off .. So much for the effot of an open hand welcome..
not going to call you Bill.. cause i'm not going to call you anything.. The Christian in me will now end this conversation.. Fact is i just hit the "mute" on your ass.
You seem to be a person with some since and i will take your word on the site and see how it goes. Normaly i would have just moved on and shook my head but it really got under my skin for some reason. I see alot of the younger generation shy away from our sport and i often wonder why...maybe its because they get there news from SNL and comedy central..but then it hit me. how many come to a site like this and are turned off. ive seen it at gun ranges and other events and it always bothered me so this time i spoke up. If more members had your attitude maybe more newbies would feel comfortable enough to ask stupid question and be proud of there weapons and ablities even if to some of us they seem way below par. Thanks!
Wow..someone got butthurt awful quick. Get the sand out of your vagina greg. This site is just one big bunch of wanna be armchair warriors. Feel free to pick on people who dont have the balls to talk back but when a real man has something to say yall take your Barbies and go home! Take me off this stupid sight. Jeez,what a bunch of pussies!
Obama??? lmao!! wow,you really hurt me there! For your info im a nuckle dragging conservitive who faught(two tours) to give you the right to shoot off your mouth online while you were smoking pot in canada with the rest of the pussies. Anyway,ive lost interest in online bullshit. what a bunch of coward fakes...get a job and move out your moms basement general or secretary of homeland security or whatever you call yourselves playing army online.lmao!
See my latest post and I'll ignore this comment.
If you don't like it, why are you still here? I can assure you that none of the regular members here behave in the way you've taken offense to at all. Again, if you actually read some of the threads here, you would realize that. There are a few posts here by ignorant people, but if you actually looked, those people don't last here long. Mainly because the regulars don't put up with it and call them out.
Just like you. But you did what is the equivalent of walking into a bar and taking swings at people. And then you point your finger at us and say we are classless? Can you understand why some have taken umbrage?
You know, I'm going to bury the hatchet. Based on what you've said, I can see that you could be good people and just got emotional and put your foot in your mouth. I'm guilty of that on more than one occasion.
So, look around and check some of the other threads and get to know us before you judge. The regulars here do a good job of making people feel welcome and answering questions. We'll taking the occasional friendly jab, but usually at friends. And we don't bash people unless they come on swinging.
Your choice. But I thank you for your service to this country regardless.
The ones that bothered me the most came from Daisey and reaper 308...i believe those are regular members. Yes,this got way off topic fast and maybe it was my fault for not making my point more clearly. I cold care less what someone has or prefers(not my problem) but its the elitist attitude coming from your "president" that bothered me. Im sure there are many great guys on here and if we met at the range would get along great. But the guy who posted the video was obviously proud of his pistol(enough so to make a video) and he just got ripped apart! My only point was that there are people out here who wouldnt buy a glock,s&w,ect I dont care what someone shoots as long as they are out there putting in the time,putting rounds down range and are actively involved in the sport! I was trying to make a point and it was lost. After that i just wanted the last word. ill admit that! Wish all of you the best and i hope next time when yall feel the need to put someones weapon down at least have facts to back it up. I only seen one post of someone who shot a HI-point(diff model) the rest was just elitist bS. Thanks
McDonnell Douglas didn't hire you for your spelling or reading comprehension, did they?
wilson, you pissed greg off with your Navy comment. He did his tours overseas too, on a carrier.
I do wonder to myself though, why do Hi-Points bring on the ugliest discussions?
wilson, I just don't see you lasting long here with your attitude. You call us snobs in a shotgun blast
then proceed to advertise your own (supposed) wealth and worldly possessions. Nice job of stirring the pot. I could care less if you got upset over the earlier comments or not. I hope you get chest pains from anger over my comments. LOL!
Not in the least Vaquero. Yes my spelling suffers a great deal while writing in anger and this new brightyellow keyboard isnt helping.lol It was hardly a shotgun blast..i named names and pointed to examples. seems like you may have a reading comprehesion problem or maybe its just a prereq. for the group. I made everyone angry for doing the exact same thing that was done to the hi-point guy..hmmmm sound hypocritical to you or is it just me? My wealth was earned and im not ashamed of it. I put in countless hours,missed weekends with my family,ect. I said many times that i couldnt care less what someone has. seems like people are hung up more on my wealth than wanting to discuss the real issue. Ive heard ONE(1),uno person that actually shot a hi-point(diff mod) But i have also read hundreds of reviews from owners who find it to be an acurate,reliable and affordable. The only comments i seen had to do with price point and looks. Sounds like woman discussing shoes. I came to the hi-point guys aid because i feel the attitude protrayed by your "president" to be elitist and without facts o back it up. The only reason my collection or so called wealth was brought up was to make the point that the very weapons everyone was suggesting are considered cheap plastic in the circle i run with. when pointed out everyone got all butthurt not thinking for one second that it was the same thing they just did. I guess if i need to make a point to the majority of the people in this forum i ill need crayons and puppets next time. Take care!
Retired Army huh? Which conflicts did you serve in?
What rank did you hold?
I smell bull shit!
this music sucks,can we argue on a different post?
I'm with you on that. It's really starting to annoy me.
Army,vietnam,E-9. Also two tours in Germany during the cold war days. Im 73 years old Vaquero. I have two silver stars with V device and one bronze star with V device. My MOS was Armor. I was a tank commander there from 65 thru 67. The only bullshit you smell is your upper lip boy. Please tell me when and where YOU served.
Yep, the music sucks. No drums.
But I've done my time in the pasture and cattle pens.
Probably had more bull shit on my upper lip than you could imagine.
E-9 don't mean much to me. You got a rank to go with that?
What would a aircraft company want with an Army retiree anyway?
TENSION, FRUSTRATION and AGGRESSION usually yield the beginning of pissing contests, and that, IMHO is what this discussion has descended to.
It is pretty much of a cliche to say, "opinions are like belly-buttons--almost everyone has one".
I believe there has been, and continues to be, plenty of room, here, for all combinations and permutations of opinions; I am surprised that defensiveness, about whether one's preferences in firearm manufacturers, seems to have become an issue of level of intelligence, level of testosterone, or class status.
There is nothing that I enjoy more [almost] than crossing verbal swords with my friends, here. In all but a very few such experiences, here, I always came away learning a lot.
Can't truly say that on this thread. If I have bruised some ego's, I apologize, because you ARE my friends.
lmao..goat roper huh? well,i was smart enough to take classes and go to college on the GI bill. I have a degree in applied science as well as applied mathamatics. So whats your program? to young to figh,too scared or you just a 16 year old in his moms basement playing "general of the army" online?
By your "so called" standards, yes.
LLE, I apologise. I do value your opinion more than most but this imposter has berated people I consider friends.
wilson, yes, "goat roper". I suppose that would describe my upbringing very well. I will not be ashamed of who I really am and where I came from. Therefore, I have no need to create a "online persona" to bolster my ego (unlike yourself).
As for your claimed "E-9" status, this means nothing to me anymore than a bingo game call out.
Please put a rank with that so a layman such as my poor uneducated self may properly address you.
For a guy who doesn't like on line forums, you sure have spent a lot of time here. In reading your posts, you don't sound like any 73 year old I know. No, you sound like that 16 year old trying to act like a big man. At any rate, why are you still here. You don't like anyone and I'm pretty sure no one will miss you. So what's the deal? Are you just having a senior moment or is the agent orange coming back? You're mad because people talked bad about hi points, BFD. You went on to bad mouth Glocks. I think your just upset because you got kicked out of Call Of Duty and needed a place to talk your shit.
Sorry,went to go have supper. E9 is a sergeant major. the highest rank an enlisted man can go unless someone was a warrent officer. So why dont one of you tell ME what youve done. I hear alot of tuff talk but all ive seen is two sailors and a farmer. hmmm. what about you coppertop...did you serve? what do either of you have in the way of experiance? I cn tell you why i think Glocks are shit...and ive shot them. have either of you shot a C9? sounds to me that yall are all talk. And coppertop my DD214 speaks for itself. what have you done with your life?
4 years active and then 2 degrees. The last one is an MBA.
Sniff sniff. There's that smell again. My next door neighbor retired at Colonel and works for the Pentagon as an E7 now. Go peddle yer wagon full of fertilizer somewhere else. Or you could go back upstairs and help yer momma clean up the kitchen.
I live on the golf course (country club) as does my neighbor (Colonel, Ret) there aint 2 whole sets of 4000 dollar clubs in the whole damn county. The Pros use those and don't get to give them away.
How's it going? This troll sure is hanging around a lot for someone who loathes us, huh? His hypocrisy seems boundless. I am positive it's a media matters commie trying to make gun owners look like ignorant rubes.
Did you manage to find my other replies to your posts in the midst of all this? We should meet up sometime later in the year (maybe October) and do a little shooting and have a round or two.
I'd be more than happy to. October is "hang out at the office" month for me.
I'm sure we can make it happen. Long weekends await!
YOU DUMB fucker E stands for enlisted A colonel is an officer! LMAO!!! now i know im dealing with a dumb twat who doesnt know his ass from a hole in the ground! Thanks for looking so stupid...my point is made! Go buy a set of AGalloway razor x's, hybrids and a good putter idiot. first you live on a farm and now your farm is o a golf course. yep that smell is coming from you partner!
As in, when are you going to realize your own ignorance and hypocrisy? Again, why are you still here? For someone with supposedly so much life experience, you really act like a juvenile having an online tantrum. So, are you a 12 year old or just a bitter old man who acts as a 12 year old?
I, being a Christian, turned the other cheek, but you have proven yourself unworthy of the community here. Take a hike.
Go look up E7...then go prices some good golf clubs and come back and redeem yourself. you sound like a fucking moron and have proven all my points for me! thank you!!!! Me and my buddies are sitting back drinking scotch and haveing a ball laughing at you!! i hope you are smart enough to deleate your comments before everyone sees how stupid you truely are! since you have internet access go look some things up...if you are a real man you will be back to retract your stupid diatribe!
You are sure digging a deep hole with it. Don't believe everything you learned on the video games.
I never said I was still on the farm, just said I grew up there. Your reading and comprehension skills only bolster my belief that you are a LIAR about your position and experiences. "Me and my buddies are sitting back drinking scotch and haveing a ball laughing at you!!" Tell me, how old are your buddies? More important, how old is the Scotch?
I guess another one has run away. please go look up the galloways(2,000 for irons,250 a piece for hybrids,Taylormade R11 driver 450,putter 500,bag 500) hmmm thats 4200 by my count. and a Colonal is an E-7! i can see why your opinion is so valued here. Thanks for the cheap entertainment! But feel good in the knowledge that we will be having a blast laughing about this for years to come!! made my night!!!
Not my forte. But your google fu is strong. It won't make a damn bit of difference against the truth.
Keep digging, I'm enjoying this.
So your sticking with your story that a Colonal is an E-7 and no golf clubs run 4g's??? ballsy move. funny how everytime your bullshit gets called you try and change the subject. My friends and I are old enough to be your daddy and our 5 year old scotch is older than you. just please do the world a favor and dont breed. we have enough of your kind that i have to support on welfare!! Anyway,why dont you stop running from all your wrong answers... are you sticking with yur story now that ive givin you enough time to look a few things up?
Did I say that no golf clubs cost $4000.00? NO!
Is my neighbor a retired Colonel and working for the Pentagon as an E7? YES!
Good grief man, pay attention.
Running from wrong answers. That's funny right there, I don't care who you are.
Bring it boy wonder.
Oh, the don't breed thing. Too late. My children are already more mature than you.
25 year old scotch...damn keyboard!
Thats what i thought...run along lil boy. you mouth overloaded your ass and you made a fool of yourself. im done,goodnight. ive wringed all the entertainment value i can out of this!! lmao a Colonal is an E-7 and no golf clubs in the world cost 4g's...thats priceless!!! Oh and for the record the reason i dont like Glocks..1)Shitty sights 2)slide sucks 3)controls are janky4) grips are the worst 4) grip angle is way off for a combat handgun 5) not made in America!! Goodnight all!!!
E stands for enlisted...a colonal is a officer. I SCREAM bullshit!!! you dont have a clue what you are talking about and yes...go look at your post...you said NO golf clubs cost 4g's. I just pray your kids arent as retarded as you are!!!
sorry,you sounded stupid...you said there was only two sets of $4000 clubs in the country. lmao..go to a sporting goods store and stop fucking your sister and you could learn something! what a total shitbag!
That's "county" dumbass. Reading and comprehension. You don't have it.
I really don't think that this is the right board for you. You can't come in and try to demean my friends. You appear to have a giant chip on your shoulder. I need you to cease and desist with the personal attacks. We have your ap address as a matter of record when you signed up. If necessary we can take this to the authorities or you can slink back into your little nether world.
I am going to check with our IT dept to get your true name, address and your party affiliation.
So forewarned should be enough. Excuse yourself and chalk it up to a missed opportunity to bond with some real men and ladies, Patriots and Veterans all.
samD - President GunsLot.
said i was done,but just had to see what you had to say on the matter.
that'll be the day. From the likes of you? Never!
The only school you've ever been to is FU, and you were the taker not the giver.
Are you really leaving this time? Or is your immature desire to return to see if someone said something about you too strong? You are pathetic.
c'mon, one more.
Don't insult all the pussies out there by comparing this guy to them. ;)
I did let it get to me. Daisy, Saint, Greg. I won't just stand by while some punk shits on y'all.
I guess I went overboard. Yeah, It'll probably happen again.
I'll also double check on my neighbor next rotation home on the E-7 deal. Hell, I could be wrong. LOL!!!!!
you say you want to help people in our sport but then you jump in over your head on an old dead post that you werent around to whiteness.
you say we are elitists(laughtrack here)but you keep bringing up your collection and aproxamate values of golf clubs etc.
you just basicly called greg a pussy for serving our nation via navy.
seems all you want to do is argue every point you can on either side you can.get off our sight.
im dun with this thread and you
Thanks for the backup.
Not sure on this but maybe the neighbor is a G what ever.. thats what civies are.. by the way i was never on a ship ya lop.. laughing here. Daisy and i were both Navy patrol planes..Think (actually know) Lew served on ships, the only one i was ever on was a Spanish one out of Rota Spain while we were there.. Some old WWII bird we gave the spanish to let us have Rota..
No more on this for me.. i offered my hand twice.. this boys dumb but not "way" dumb.. Sam has it at this point.. Honestly not sure if "skippy" is for real or a 12 year old either way the hospitality was offered, and response .. nuff on this, done subject for me.. PERIOD..
Did you get the pm on the padre plinkers in acp.. slow and lead for me on these.. let me know what you think.. I know i said most any bullet, and i liked the conical swc thing, but on second thought id like to be able to run them thru the pistols to so lead round nose would be better, and i know thats what you'd want for yours so..
LMAO!!! now we are going to call the authorities because someone called us pussies and hurt our feelings!! what a bunch of shit bags!! I dont think any of you served or else someone would inbox there friend and let him know how wrong he is on the rank thing. but i understand how you fags stick togather! I know im right and if all of you combined could do your homework you would find out the same. I would NEVER belong to a group or take advice from people who think a Colonal is an E-7 and $4000 dollar golf clubs are non-existant. I tried to prove a point but it was lost on morons such as you...shouldnt have gaveyall the credit to think yall would get it. Good luck in internet land where yall can all pretend to be big men! thanks for the laughs. It was real fun but now im scare if any of you reflect what the future brings. And to all the spineless bastards to afraid to stnd up against the tide and say your friend is wrong...just remember"A coward dies a thousand death but a soldier just one"!! Hope yall can help each other get the sand out of each others vaginas. Take care!!
Your account has been blocked due to violation of forum rules
A.K.A, "rwilson"... did you forget we have your IP address? Move on. I will continue to ban you.
Everyone else: please ignore the trolls
It sure took awhile to get rid of this dirtbag. How about being a little more pro-active than reactive. But thanks for doing your duty. Now delete his shit messages and everyone will be happy.
Just my 2¢, but I say leave them. as a testament to how ignorant and hypocritical he was. Plus, it could serve as a guide for future new members that starting off with, "Hi. I'm new here, and you are all a bunch of snobby assholes" may not be the best approach.
many times i have seen the gunslot gang take on some asshat,if we just delete every moron that comes on here that someone takes offense to then what fun is that.Hell us Moderaters delet enough crap as it is.You all are big boys and handeled yourselves just fine,I'm guessing Reap pulled the plug right on cue,read the posts,you can tell turd brain rwilson had some cheap ass scotch working that slosh pit he calls a brain.Some levels of intelligence meshed with fetal aclochol syndrome no doubt,or is that fecal alcohol syndrome.
and he had his valid points"better a gay son,than one in the Navy". Hell i'm buying that.Come on thats funny.We all have thick skin here right( and ebear says Runs has soft,very soft,thick skin).This shriveled dick,puss nutted gauchyeyed goat smelling,REMF had his titty twisted over a little hipoint bashing,well ok Mister i'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it any more,you go girl!
This fucking cum bubble blowing bukkakee catcher put down Glocks,that's about when i had it personally,but then i realized Granpa bengay was nothing more to me than stepping on hot gum on the sidewalk,a sticky ooze on the bottom of my shoe,gone in two steps,foregotten in three.
Yes Gunslot gang you did good,ok not you Sam,go to your corner!
of Mr. R. Wilson's stunningly brilliant posts.
He only lied a little like being a retired E-9. Once guys get that much shit on their sleeves they stop talking juvenile trash.
He lied about his college degree, I misspell a lot but not what I got my degree in.
He (prolly) lied about working for Mc Don-Doug, I worked for a supplier of major componients to them, it's usual for a current/former employee to hint at on what or where they worked on in a company.
He lied about his pricy guns, If I could afford a lobster dinner I'd post pics like the snob I am.
He did not check out our mil history b4 running his lies about his "service".
BTW, what's this shit about "better a gay son,than one in the Navy". ?!?!?!,
Oh well, I'm enjoying being back after one hell of a bad Wednesday, see ya later, Jarhead! :<))
Hmm yeah Lew i'm checking this comment from Lucky..
With you there Daisy.. Pushing it.. nice to know you have a friend
Glad Reap followed and kept him from comming back under a new name..
Greatness right there. You made me lol.
If we ever meet, I'm buying the first.
bad sam.... I just don't deal with idiots very well. bearmeat, snake, etc, etc
Lucky that was some of the best adjectives and adverbs set in one paragraph I have seen in a longer time.